Wednesday, October 12, 2022

DENOMINATIONALISM: 2012 Discussion Continued (published 10-12-2022; updated 10-26-2022; article #364)


I awakened about 5 AM, roughly an hour or so early for me. I told Mrs. Appalachian Irishman, who was up already, as usual, that I was fine. I'd had a dream about Mom (Betty Lou Wood Ferrell, 11/24/1932 - 12/27/2000) and various other family and friends, at the homeplace. I won't share the details; however, it was neither pleasant nor unpleasant. The dream had weird moments. I still wonder why I couldn't get the living room curtains (which were green, not antique white) to stay in place properly! (“Antique white,” apparently, is the fancy word for white that has a sandy color to it.)

“Microcrap” wanted me to reboot, to install an update. I gambled that it would work, and it did. Afterward, for some reason, I started checking through some old folders in “File Explorer” (the yellow folder stuff on a computer). I found a forgotten document in an old yellow folder.

The discovery of that forgotten document inspired this article. My God is bigger than that! Please continue reading, to understand. This article is deep and theological, in contract to my humorous article yesterday.

2012 Discussion

Just over ten years ago, in September, 2012, I had browsed upon a website, which has since been renamed, but which is still active. The renamed website is Pre-Denominational Christianity. In 2012, it was named Preacher of Truth.

I had read “It Doesn’t Taste The Same: The Problem of Denominationalism,” by Jon Mitchell, Preacher of Truth, 8/30/2012. The content of the article had compelled my comment. The forgotten document, which I found in an old yellow folder on my computer, still contains my records. From my records, I found the active website and the 8/30/2012 article. That article shows 22 comments. My comments are still included.

My first comment, a simple question, was on 9/11/2012, at 9:14 PM. I had asked:

Are all those who are in so-called denominations lost, bound for hell? Why or why not?

The author replied the next morning, in nine paragraphs, which did not answer my question directly. I continued the discussion that evening (9/12/2012, 8:41 PM), by asking:

May I infer from your comments the answer of “Yes,” to my initial question? May I further infer that the reason is due to not being saved, due to not perfectly, or accurately, interpreting and following scripture, and it alone?

Later that evening (9/12/2012, 9:23 PM), the author replied:

Yes to both questions, with the qualifier again being that this is what the Bible teaches.

The next day, 9/13/2012, at 6:37 PM, I continued, by asking:

Are you, sir, then, saved, because you perfectly, or accurately, interpret and follow scripture?

I did not receive a reply; therefore, on 10/16/2012, at 7:52 PM, I indicated the lack of reply and asked the same question again:

Are you, sir, then, saved, because you perfectly, or accurately, interpret and follow scripture?

Apparently, I'd visited the author's website for a few days, to find no reply to my 10/16/2012 question. I had moved on.

2022 Continuation

Early this morning, however – while checking through those old computer folders in “File Explorer” – I discovered the author's reply, of 10/22/2012 – six days after my 10/16/2012 question (same as my 9/13/2012 question). His reply was:

Good question, M. Fearghail. No, I’m not saved because I perfectly interpret and follow scripture. The scriptures teach that we are to continually grow in knowledge (2 Pet. 1:5-8; 3:18), which implies that our knowledge of scripture is continually growing as well.

I’m saved because, due to God’s grace, he forgives me whenever I, in my efforts to study and obey his Word, come to realize that I have not properly interpreted and/or obeyed his Word, and repent.

It all comes down to God’s grace and our obedience, the latter of which cannot happen without proper interpretation.

Today, ten years later, I continue, by this article, my discussion with the author, which I'd started, on 9/11/2012. I will also comment later today, on the author's 8/30/2012 website article, after I publish this article. My comment on his article will include the link to this article, with my invitation for him to respond by commenting on this article. I will not continue the conversation on his article after today – since his original article was on 8/30/2012 and my article is today.

The author's 10/22/2012 reply was circular reasoning. He began by stated: “I’m not saved because I perfectly interpret and follow scripture.” He concluded, however, by stating that “our obedience . . . cannot happen without proper interpretation.” I wonder if “proper interpretation” meant the same as “perfectly interpret,” in the author's mind, on 10/22/2012. Merriam-Webster defines the adjective “proper” as “7a: strictly accurate: correct.” That dictionary defines the adverb “perfectly” as “1: in a perfect manner. 2: to a complete or adequate extent.”

The author, on 10/22/2012, appeared to have affirmed that saving obedience (in faith) to Christ is based on “proper” interpretation (and following) of scripture. His 9/12/2012, 9:23 PM, reply affirmed his stance that Christians in “denominations” are lost and bound for hell.

The author is welcome to read at least two of my articles (among others on the topic): WHY I LEFT (Published 3-7-2009) and BIBLE and FAITH DISCUSSIONS - CHRISTIAN VIEWPOINT (published 1-31-2021; updated 9-17-2022). There, he will find my published stand.


My still unfinished and unpublished book, “Light at the End of the Tunnel,” will include the following tribute to my mother:

in Memory of
Betty Lou Wood Ferrell (11/24/1932 – 12/27/2000),
the finest Christian I have ever known.

My mother was a Christian. She attended a Baptist Church. Mom was saved by her genuine and active faith in Christ. Her faith was not perfectly accurate, in certain points of doctrinal understanding (i.e., church organization, etc.). She told me that she was immersed, to please God, as He requires.

Christ's church is composed of the saved. His church is one body. His church started in the first century AD. Several church groups started during the Protestant Reformation, including the Baptist Church. The Church of Christ was started by Alexander Campbell and others. Christ's Church -- which includes members of the Church of Christ, the Baptist Church, and many others – is one body – composed of those who are saved by God's grace, through their active and loving faith response. Their faith may be inaccurate on certain non-essential doctrinal points. Their active and loving faith saves them – not their “proper interpretation” of scripture (on non-essential points).

I can unpack and expand, in detail, everything that I've written. I await the comment, here, by the author of his 8/30/2012 article.

My God is bigger than that!

Updated 10/26/2022

As of Wednesday, 10/26/2022, 14 days have passed, since I published this 10/12/2022 article. Website analytics verifies that this article has views into the three digit range. It is nearing and may soon overtake my 20th most viewed article. The viewer total increases daily. My analytics does not identify viewers – only viewer counts. (My website has always secured viewer privacy.)

The author of the 8/30/2012 article receives email notices of comments on his articles. He reviews, to approve or reject them. He posts the comments that he approves. I have the same option to screen comments. I used to do so. I delete spam comments, after they post.

As of this update, the author has not chosen to publish my 10/12/2022 comment, on his 8/30/2012 article -- to continue our discussion of ten years ago. I will cite here, therefore, my 10/12/2022 comment to his 8/30/2012 article:

     Today, 10/12/2022, I happened to notice that
     I had not seen your 10/22/2012 reply to my
     10/16/2012 inquiry. Thank you for your reply.
     I apologize that I see it almost ten years later.
     My 10/12/2022 article at
     is my response (almost ten years late). I invite
     you to reply, if interested, on my website
     comments. I will not continue our conversation

The author is still invited to publish my, above, 10/12/2022 comment on his 8/30/2012 article and to comment on my 10/12/2022 article. He is welcome to use my “Contact Form” to email me directly.

The author – similar to Baal, for whom his prophets called – may be “. . . deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” (1 Kings 18:27, NIV)

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